Curse

=HT=Ingram · Feb 02, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Its been some time since I heard anything from a certain source, and I decided to go ahead and post the suggestion Our gaming clan forwarded to ArenaNet on a few new skills for existing classes... Just for the additional Feedback from here... As I know he is looking ATM. lol

anyways. Isaiah this is mostly directed for you as I know your tweaking balance again for each class for Chapter 2.

The following were from HazTeam Beta testers over a period of time prior to Chapter Two Testing... But may still be viable balance skills to be considered.

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Name: Mantra of Protection
Class: Mesmer
Attribute: Inspiration
Type: Elite Stance

Description:
For (3-18) seconds caster has (25-40)% chance to "block" all
incoming enemy skills as if they were melee attacks. Any
other evasion/blocking/running skills you cast for the duration
of this skill, will cancel the affects.

Attribute lvl Time Block (%)

1 3 sec 25%
2 4 sec 26%
3 5 sec 27%
4 6 sec 28%
5 7 sec 29%
6 8 sec 30%
7 9 sec 31%
8 10 sec 32%
9 11 sec 33%
10 12 sec 34%
11 13 sec 35%
12 14 sec 36%
13 15 sec 37%
14 16 sec 38%
15 17 sec 39%
16 18 sec 40%

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Name: Rapid Casting
Class: Mesmer
Attribute: Fast Casting
Type: Elite Enchantment Skill

Description: For the next (3-16) seconds, all skills are
instantly casted but take (33-12)% more energy to cast.

Attribute lvl Time cost (%)

1 3 sec 33%
2 4 sec 32%
3 5 sec 31%
4 5 sec 30%
5 6 sec 28%
6 7 sec 27%
7 8 sec 26%
8 9 sec 25%
9 10 sec 24%
10 10 sec 21%
11 11 sec 20%
12 12 sec 19%
13 13 sec 18%
14 14 sec 16%
15 15 sec 14%
16 16 sec 12%

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Name: Shield of Invulnerability
Class: Monk
Attribute: Protection Prayers
Type: Elite Enchantment

Description:
Cast this Skill on target other ally will strip all current
enchantments and hexes on ally and make them invulnerable for
(3-14) seconds. During this time no skills may be cast on
target ally and target ally may not use any skills. Target
ally becomes immune to all conditions and damage attacks.

Attribute lvl Time

1 3 sec
2 3 sec
3 4 sec
4 5 sec
5 5 sec
6 6 sec
7 7 sec
8 8 sec
9 9 sec
10 9 sec
11 10 sec
12 11 sec
13 12 sec
14 13 sec
15 13 sec
16 14 sec

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Name: Blessing from the Heavens
Class: Monk
Attribute: Divine Favor
Type: Elite Enchantment

Description: Target ally gains a gift from the heavens, granting them
a +(1-5) bonus randomly to anyone one primary attribute for (3-14)
seconds (the maximum any attribute can go may not exceed 18).

Attr. Bonus chance (%)
+1 40%
+2 25%
+3 20%
+4 10%
+5 5%

Attribute lvl Time

1 3 sec
2 3 sec
3 4 sec
4 5 sec
5 5 sec
6 6 sec
7 7 sec
8 8 sec
9 9 sec
10 9 sec
11 10 sec
12 11 sec
13 12 sec
14 13 sec
15 13 sec
16 14 sec

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Name: Cauterization
Class: Elementalist
Attribute: Fire Magic
Type: Skill

Description: Heal target ally for (20-50) points and grant
+20 armor from all fire damage for ten seconds.

Attribute lvl Amount healed (points)

1 20
2 22
3 24
4 26
5 28
6 30
7 32
8 34
9 36
10 38
11 40
12 42
13 44
14 46
15 48
16 50

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Name: Tear of the Phoenix
Class: Elementalist
Attribute: Fire Magic
Type: Skill

Description: Cure all poison, disease, bleeding, or deep wounds
from target ally.

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Name: Adrenaline rush
Class: Warrior
Attribute: Tactics
Type: Elite Stance

Description: For (5-20) seconds, you gain double adrenaline on each hit but
loose 2 energy. This stance ends if your energy drops to zero.

Attribute lvl Time

1 5 sec
2 6 sec
3 7 sec
4 8 sec
5 9 sec
6 10 sec
7 11 sec
8 12 sec
9 13 sec
10 14 sec
11 15 sec
12 16 sec
13 17 sec
14 18 sec
15 19 sec
16 20 sec

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Name: Feast of Souls
Class: Necromancer
Attribute: soul Reaping
Type: Elite Skill

Description: For (8-25) seconds, all party members experience the effects of
soul reaping equal to half your current level of soul reaping.

Attribute lvl Time

1 8 sec
2 9 sec
3 10 sec
4 11 sec
5 13 sec
6 14 sec
7 15 sec
8 16 sec
9 17 sec
10 19 sec
11 20 sec
12 21 sec
13 22 sec
14 23 sec
15 25 sec
16 20 sec

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Name: Ultimate Sacrifice
Class: Necromancer
Attribute: Death magic
Type: Skill

Description:
Sacrifice life to resurrect fallen party member. Party member is
returned to life with (30-64)% of your health and (20-40)% of
your energy before you casted this Skill. Death caused by
sacrificing life this way does not incur a death penalty.

Attribute lvl Health (%) Energy (%)

1 30% 20%
2 32% 21%
3 34% 22%
4 36% 23%
5 38% 25%
6 41% 26%
7 43% 27%
8 45% 28%
9 47% 29%
10 50% 31%
11 52% 32%
12 54% 33%
13 56% 34%
14 58% 35%
15 61% 37%
16 64% 40%

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Anyways a few of the skills above were to find new skills to use with under developed Attributes, and others were just interesting Ideas we put together... So Feedback is welcome as this is truly the place for such debate.

Ingram of Haz.

Sha Noran · Feb 02, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49

These are some really quality ideas. I would only say that that last one, Ultimate Sacrifice, would have to have some sort of casting time attached to it or it would be abused... or maybe it would need to be an elite.

Also, "Tears of the Phoenix" needs to have a variable or else it cannot be based in an attribute... if there is no variable then it would be "No Attribute".

My guildmates and I were also tossing ideas back and forth the other night regarding new skills. The two that stand out in my mind were these (I hope you don't mind me adding these onto your thread :P):

Name: <Didn't think of one. :P>
Class: Necromancer
Attribute: Soul Reaping
Type: Elite Enchantment

Description:
For (x) seconds, you recieve only half your due ammount of Soul Reaping. During this time, target other ally gains Soul Reaping equal to half the ammount you normally would recieve.

Name: Sneak
Class: Assassin
Attribute: <Um... no idea.

>
Type: Skill (Stance maybe)

Description:
For (x) seconds, your agro circle is halved. If you take damage, Sneak ends.

Again, no intention of thread jacking here.

Grimm · Feb 02, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sha Noran

Name: Sneak
Class: Assassin
Attribute: <Um... no idea.

>
Type: Skill (Stance maybe)

Description:
For (x) seconds, your agro circle is halved. If you take damage, Sneak ends.

There is no "agro circle" in PvP. Skills must be usable in PvP, as the balance is designed around PvP. Not gonna happen (nor should it).

fallot · Feb 02, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Name: Illusion of Power
Class: Mesmer
Attribute: Domination Magic
Type: Elite Hex Spell

For 10 seconds, spells cast by target foe do not cost any energy. When Illusion of Power ends, target foe loses 1...10 energy and is exhausted for each skill used during the duration of the Hex.

Kaguya · Feb 02, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallot

Name: Illusion of Power
Class: Mesmer
Attribute: Domination Magic
Type: Elite Hex Spell

For 10 seconds, spells cast by target foe do not cost any energy. When Illusion of Power ends, target foe loses 1...10 energy and is exhausted for each skill used during the duration of the Hex.

Is that a hex or an enhacement? I'd find more use for it as enhancement than a hex (cast on ally, ally casts multiple high energy cost (or just one 10+ energy cost spell)), atleast with those stats.

As a hex... If the enemy has spammable skills, they easily use more than 10 energy within 10 seconds, or simply cast one 10+ energy cost spell. I'd like enemies casting that on me

Bleh. Dunno about the exhaust part, that might hurt sure, then again. Would have to play with it ingame. Swapping high energy weapons after it ends, or something.

Nevermind

urbnatr · Feb 02, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Name: Shield of Reversal
Class: Monk
Attribute: Protection Prayers
Type: Elite Enchantment

For 5 seconds all hexs cast on target other ally is redirected
to Nearest foe u lose (10-2) energy for each hex redirected

fallot · Feb 02, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaguya

Is that a hex or an enhacement? I'd find more use for it as enhancement than a hex (cast on ally, ally casts multiple high energy cost (or just one 10+ energy cost spell)), atleast with those stats.

I want it to be both but there isnt a spell in GW you can put on both enemies and allies (Enchantments for allies, Hexes for foes). Its use depends on the situation but its very effective against Rangers and Assassins since it only makes spells cost no energy. Skills will still cost the same amount of energy and have the negative effect as well.

Mosgerion · Feb 02, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Cool ideas, but there's a problem with two of your skills.

First of all, Rapid Casting is, well, insane. Heck, for the instant cast, I'd take it on my elementalist primary!

Flare-Fireball-Immolate-Flare-Flare-Flare etc. until you run out of energy.

Granted, you have three seconds, but the after-cast is pretty short, and an Elementalist could prep beforehand with Arcane Echo or something and get a lot of nuking spells off in those three seconds.

With upwards of ten seconds into FC, well, those Rapid-cast Flareway/Stoneway builds don't look like a joke anymore. They look unbalanced. Simply halving or reducing the casting time by two-thirds would be enough.

Also, Ultimate Sacrifice has less of a problem, except that theoretically you could have two saccers kill and revive with no death penalty.

Rulke · Feb 02, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Name: Ether Manipulation
Class: Mesmer
Attribute: Inspiration Magic
Type: Elite Skill
25en/2cast/60recharge
For (5..10) seconds the next non maintained other skill cast on target other is also considered to be cast on all nearby allies to target other, and also considered to be cast by target onto the caster of the skill. Should this happen you gain exhaustion.

In case you can't understand my rather unclear description, this is designed to make any skill AoE. If a skill is used on someone with this on them all of their allies near them also have the skill cast on them. For example: you cast it on your monk, monk casts Word of Healing on himself, all of your allies near the monk get Word of Healing cast on them as well, and the monk has it cast on him twice. Or you cast it on an enemy IWAY team and follow it with SS, giving it to most of the enemies. Non maintained is to stop it granting lots of casts of a maintained enchantment (Life Bond/Life Barrier/Aura of Displacement especially) for one pip of degen and one cast.

EDIT: Added non maintained OTHER skill, as I noticed a potential exploit where you hit one char with this twice thanks to another mesmer and follow it up with any AoE spell (I was thinking Meteor Shower, but any would have worked, the larger the AoE the bigger the exploit) to cause a huge amount of damage to all characters in the group as they are hit once by the AoE skill for every character near them that had EM on them (redirect) and once per char near them that it hit (AoE) and once for themselves. I was pictureing someone in RA getting knockdown and 7 high numbers flashing above their head. Even more crazy in tombs or GvG

Skuld · Feb 02, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Rapid Casting seems quite overpowered :O

Undivine · Feb 02, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Deceptive Hex
Mesmer
Energy 5
Cast time 1 sec.
Reuse 20

For 20-39 seconds target foe and nearby foes are hexed with Deceptive Hex. Anyone who casts a hex removal spell on a creature hexed with Deceptive Hex loses 3-8 energy.

The purpose of this spell is simply to be the cover hex. Any good mesmer or necro knows what a cover hex is, and this fits the role perfectly. Those of you who don't know, it's a generic hex that you cast in order to prevent hex removal from removing your more vital hexes. I haven't decided which attribute it should be under. Deceptive Hex can still be removed, it just takes the remover's mana with it. The energy is lost at the point of successfully completing the removal spell.

Energy cost of the spell is cheap because it's supposed to be cast last, when you have the least amount of mana. Cast time is fast because enemies are often very quick to remove hexes, especially in PvE. Reuse is 20 to give the enemy a chance to remove the hexes anyway, so it doesn't completely protect your hexes. But it sure helps a lot.

Of course, you'll have to be careful when using Shatter Hex.

Kwisatz_Haderach · Feb 02, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Name: Nuke
Class: Elementilist
Attribute: Fire Magic
Type: Elite Spell

Target foe and all foes in the area are hit for 10.... 74 dmg.
All people in the area are knocked down, set on fire for 1...3secs, and diseased for 4...14 secs.

Undivine · Feb 02, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwisatz_Haderach

Name: Nuke
Class: Elementilist
Attribute: Fire Magic
Type: Elite Spell

Target foe and all foes in the area are hit for 10.... 74 dmg.
All people in the area are knocked down, set on fire for 1...3secs, and diseased for 4...14 secs.

Not only extremely powerful, but it's called by a name that doesn't really make sense in a fantasy setting. Even if this spell affects allies as well as enemies, I think it is too powerful.

Kwisatz_Haderach · Feb 02, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

so add exhaustion or something but the name describes exactly what it does

Kwisatz_Haderach · Feb 02, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Any ways when i went back over the origional post I saw something interesting: Dousn't Battle Rage do the samething as addrenline rush but more efficiently?

Sha Noran · Feb 03, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimm

There is no "agro circle" in PvP. Skills must be usable in PvP, as the balance is designed around PvP. Not gonna happen (nor should it).

Ummm, no.

actionjack · Feb 03, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Premature Ejaculation
Description: If target foe is casting a spell, the spell is instanly casted, but is weaken by 1...8 attirbute levels.
Energy Cost: 10
Casting Time: 1/4 seconds.
Recharge Time: 45 seconds.
Linked Attribute: Inspiration Magic

Soul Shaker · Feb 03, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

just a *little* bit too far.

if little was [-----------------------------------------------------------] that is...

=HT=Ingram · Feb 03, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

I figured a few would need tweaking. It was mostly just a post for the feedback we are getting for the Devos to see what we are thinking... So all of this is great... The inspiration for a few of these was either a lack of skills in a certain attribute... Or lack of an elite in one... The key thing we have to think of now is balance on offsets to Ruturalists and assassins, cause at the time of original writing of the posted skills we had not played with the new characters yet... Now that we have we could see some things to add for that too. And we have a list. However I'm sure this is already being considered so we did not include those skills in this post... this was the original set from the proposal... I like your guys ideas as well... the trick is to see how they combine and counter... Typically you look at a new skill and need to have at least 2 ways to counter it... Or make it so its not a Invinci Build Skill... Yes they can be useful without being overpowered... In all cases the original skills all have a counter... so the same has to be for new skills too... That's the hard part of skill development... we want cool skills... but you got to balance it out... The Ultimate Sacrifice skill was bounced back and forth on DP for it.. and it was finally decided to do it that way as its a very risky prospect... When the others are rezed... they are extremely weak at that point... and the one that did the rez is Dead at that point so no help there... But I agree on the tweaking of it a little... Maybe to cripple on res for that sacrifice or something like that... Also note We didn't include casting times or recharge for these skills as yet... Obviously This skill would be something in the range of 25 energy and at least 8-10 to cast... Just like resurrect at least...

Finally the rapid casting... This was solely because of the lack of skills in this attribute... I fought hard for this one... I agree its overpowered as is... But this can be offset either by a large energy requirement... OR Exhaustion... Since its a Speed skill I was thinking more exhaustion... With an energy cost of 10. But was open to suggestions... So your feedback is welcome on those I'm sure...

xb0vv · Feb 03, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Name: Disenchanting Swarm
Class: Necro
Attribute: Curses
Type: Elite Spell

25 energy
3 casting time
30 recharge

Disenchanting Swarm flies out and disorientates target foe and up to 3 foes in the area. When a foe is disorientated by Disenchanting Swarm, they lose 2-4 enchantments and take 20-66 dmg.